> From: tristan.strange_at_gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:08:14 +0000
> Subject: Re: [livecode] Wtf is live coding?
> To: livecode_at_group.lurk.org
>
> > Live coding celebrates the ephemerality of definition itself
>
> Jesus Nick, I'd never have guessed you were so flowery!
>
> Some people do that when they live code. An act of live coding could
> be that. That's not what live coding is
why the need for a singular and fixed definition? plurality is interesting. Personally I like the ICLC definitions doc as a stock taking of what the community is doing/thinking about rather than trying to say live coding is or isn't x.
As someone who started live coding in the relatively recent 2012, I see live coding in 2015 as very different to what's described in the TOPLAP manifesto. not tying ourselves down to a specific version of live coding lets us keep developing what we're doing no?
Shelly Knotts
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> From: tristan.strange_at_gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:08:14 +0000
> Subject: Re: [livecode] Wtf is live coding?
> To: livecode_at_group.lurk.org
>
> > Live coding celebrates the ephemerality of definition itself
>
> Jesus Nick, I'd never have guessed you were so flowery!
>
> Some people do that when they live code. An act of live coding could
> be that. That's not what live coding is, especially if I click save
> afterwards.
>
>
>
>
> On 26 December 2015 at 10:31, Nick Collins <clicksonnil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Live coding celebrates the ephemerality of definition itself
> >
> > happy boxing day
> > N
> >
> > On 25 Dec 2015, at 16:13, Zoe C Berger <zoecberger_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm new to this group and coding in general.
> >>
> >> I'm an artist using live code as artistic medium. I'm still figuring a lot of things out. I hope you don't mind my eavesdropping until I know a little bit more. It's nice to hear others views on this
> >>
> >> Also, merry merry , ect ...
> >>
> >> Zoe
> >>
> >>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Tristan Strange <tristan.strange_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It warms my cockles to see people thinking about live code on
> >>> Christmas day... I've been told I'm not to think about it and am
> >>> sneaking this response in!
> >>>
> >>> Really nice to see some sentences that'll stand up to a prod or two!
> >>>
> >>> Even the cats definition isn't as bad as some on the list....
> >>>
> >>>> On 25 December 2015 at 14:00, David Griffiths <dave_at_pawfal.org> wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 24/12/15 21:39, alex wrote:
> >>>>> I'm going to have to bite..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 24 December 2015 at 19:25, David Barbour <dmbarbour_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Live coding is using a powerful language as an HCI. This is opposed to
> >>>>>> using application specific language (predefined forms or widgets, a weak
> >>>>>> CLI language, etc.) that hinder flexible expression or abstraction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think it's worth separating live coding from its application in
> >>>>>> performance and music. With augmented reality, and internet of things, or
> >>>>>> semantic webs, we could see a much wider applications.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah we wouldn't want to see such a passing, limited interest topic
> >>>>> such as "music" seen in the same light as these three much more
> >>>>> important, far sighted and serious applications! It's not as though
> >>>>> music is woven into just about every human ritual or anything like
> >>>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> While music may or may not be a good application of livecoding 'as a
> >>>> tool' - it even might be the case that computation *is* music, and by
> >>>> experiencing it's construction by a performer, we may be able to learn
> >>>> something about the algorithmic world we live in.
> >>>>
> >>>> In a similar way, livecoding also has potential to expose clearly a
> >>>> secret aspect of technology - the way it's pursued in a fumbling, zigzag
> >>>> approach with many restarts - rather than the smooth, planned series of
> >>>> 'innovations' that people who want us to invest in their companies would
> >>>> like us to believe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice to be discussing this stuff here again :)
> >>>>
> >>>> cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> dave
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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