Wired will do a proper story when there's someone or something to do it on.
That was more of a blurb. If there were a big conference or a livecoder got
famous, they'd expend a lot more resources creating the article.
The best way to nurture our shared art/hobby is to let it grow organically
and on its own -- imposing a hierarchy from above is counter productive.
- Justin.
On 7/18/06, Brian Chamberlain <blchamberlain_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> a TOPLAP Certification and Award scheme? Now I know you're not serious....
>
> I'm interested in why the wired article is so controversial with you guys.
> It's how I found out about livecoding and TOPLAP.
>
> If the article promotes awareness for your art and encourages people to
> learn about it and contribute to it...what's really the problem?
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
>
> On 7/6/06, Adrian Ward <signwave-adrian_at_signwave.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Julian Rohrhuber wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71248-0.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The next slub gig will have to be mainly Ade on his trumpet
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I like the controversy and bile that toplap seems to raise in
> > > >>> places like
> > > >>> that, seems a good sign to me :)
> > > >>
> > > >> which places do you mean? wired? trumpet? the net? the world? :-)
> >
> > > >
> > > >I was thinking about the comments - in wired/slashdot etc, it is
> > always a
> > > >concept that seems to make a certain percentage of people angry.
> >
> > It's a shame the anger isn't directed at the tabloid journalism that
> > generates these sorts of stories. The article is full of inaccuracies,
> > misrepresentations and is, at best, one person's glossy intepretation of
> > something more substantial than the populist agenda it is pushing. I
> > suspect if the general Wired readership were aware of this such comments
> > wouldn't be so strong.
> >
> > Really... "traded in his guitar when he found he could be more creative
> > with code than with strings". Typical tabloidism.
> >
> > One of the great things about TOPLAP is that we can respond to this sort
> > of misrepresentation through ironic reflection. Our manifesto is
> > intentionally tongue-in-cheek to do exactly this. The same could be said
> >
> > of our non-commital acronym. These are weapons we should be using to
> > destroy the narrowminded casting of populist media. It's not like we
> > _need_ the acceptance of Wired's readership.
> >
> > I think we should form a TOPLAP Certification and Award scheme.
> > Certificates could be issued authoritatively to livecoding software to
> > reinforce the fact that livecoding is a thoroughly serious and important
> > facet of modern performance. Software producers would be able to apply
> > for
> > permission to TOPLAP to include the certification logo on software to
> > show
> > their compliance. Individuals could be rewarded to show how committed
> > they
> > are to the livecoding cause. It would be thoroughly important, and
> > include
> > lots of handwaving and backslapping. We'd write press releases, and
> > everything.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ade
> >
> >
>
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