>They introduced
>> their notion of 'expanded software' which I didn't fully understand but
>> involved interactively programming everything.
>
>they didn't fully understand it either ; )
>
>ap wanted to twist `live coding' to be `alive coding', alive in the
>environment. Their world is basically a world of software art.
The whole issue (which I do find interesting) focuses around the
question of what "life" (not live!) is - historically generative art
goes back to artificial life, so it inherits a lot from this
discourse. As far as I can see, live coding seems to inherit more
from dada/lettrism, formalism and concept art.
>live coding does sound like concert realtime programming, so
>`interactive programming' is a wider term. TOPLAP doesn't have to
>restrict itself to concerts, though this is what I (personally) find
>most artistically interesting. From a utility/prototyping
>perspective, interpreted programming languages are great, but I
>don't feel any need to explore that for art. It is the sheer
>challenge of trying to code anything interesting whatsoever in front
>of an audience, those realtime constraints on thinking that show
>some analogy to other forms of improvisation. But maybe that's just
>me ; )
no, Nick, I have the same problem ( ;
>Just to be clear, Julian, we did try to mention your point of view
>at the panel as well. It was a shame you couldn't make it over, but
>I think ap being there gave another alternative opinion. And ap
>didn't mean to do any coding in front of us on their presentation
>creator software- it just didn't run when they tried it, so they had
>to debug. They didn't modify it while it was working either.
>
>ap seem like they set things up and leave them in a (non-social)
>environment- ie, their desert code piece, which evolves based on
>environmental sensors in California. In many ways though, social
>human situations are the ultimate challenge. The livecode take
>allows us to leave an active human presence somewhere amongst the
>code, a social agent.
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