> Great to see a discussion happening on a mailing list and not on that awful Facebook!
Fair enough - I don't see why everyones so down on the comment
section. Its got more of a forward thrust than mailing lists sometimes
what with easy quoting and what not. I also find I worry a lot more
about what I'm saying on than I do on mailing lists. You never know
which pricks going to weigh in on FB. Horses for courses.
> I tend to think David is right that you need to involve a computer in live coding. Sometimes those computers are humans, animals, nature, or analogue machines. (See Hayles' book "My Mother was a Computer").
I think I agree with you here. and its giving me a headache. Is there
really nothing that distinguishes a computer from a system? Does
Hayles' say no?
> I once wrote a paper on the difficulty of defining live coding. That's why the title became "Herding Cats" - it might be relevant here.
Thanks Thor, it's bonkers how much of human endeavour boils down to
some form of cat herding. I think I've heard it said about every job
I've ever done except for shelf stacking. Really looking forward to
having a read. Ta.
> I wonder if you can live code lying on your back in the dark (like Beckett) writing code in your minds eye, and not bothering about an interpreter or an audience?
In that situation isn't your mind the interpreter and audience?
On 27 December 2015 at 11:59, thor <th.list_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Great to see a discussion happening on a mailing list and not on that awful Facebook!
>
> I tend to think David is right that you need to involve a computer in live coding. Sometimes those computers are humans, animals, nature, or analogue machines. (See Hayles' book "My Mother was a Computer").
>
> But on a reflection, I wonder if you can live code lying on your back in the dark (like Beckett) writing code in your minds eye, and not bothering about an interpreter or an audience? A bit like a modernist composer who doesn't give a damn about the listener.
>
> I once wrote a paper on the difficulty of defining live coding. That's why the title became "Herding Cats" - it might be relevant here.
>
> Thor
>
>> On 27 Dec 2015, at 11:38, Tristan Strange <tristan.strange_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 26 December 2015 at 16:19, David Barbour <dmbarbour_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think a computer must be involved with processing the code. I'm not
>>> inclined to include a Simon Says game as live coding, for example. But it
>>> doesn't need to be today's common keyboard-video-mouse setup. And the
>>> computer could certainly communicate in ad-hoc ways with other people,
>>> robots, and devices.
>>
>> It's funny, I came here expecting to be told that my definitions were
>> too restrictive - not to be telling other people that.
>>
>> If you're using this definition what distinguishes just using a
>> programmable computer program (lets say Excel) from live coding?
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