I hadn't heard of BEFLIX before... thanks Amy!
And yes, the code wasn't projected during the performances Dan described to
me. Also, most of the performances were carried out using physical controls
manipulating the GRASS / RT/1 programs... live coding was used to help
develop the programs run during the performance beforehand, but was more of
an occasional interjection during the final performance events.
- Charlie
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
> Last one on BEFLIX, I promise (probably.)
> Just stumbled onto this. Again, not livecoding, but interesting to see they
> went to the trouble of making a film to document their language for making
> films..
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5mFhDIJfNA
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
>
> > If embedded Sketchpad video didn't cue properly in previous post:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKM3CmRqK2o go to 7:50 for the
> > flowcharting bit.
> >
> > -Amy
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, AFAIK nobody projected the RT/1 code; it was on a separate monitor
> >> that generally wasn't hooked up for video output. So they would have
> had to
> >> put a camera on the screen and mix it through the switcher, as they did
> in
> >> the documentation video. I think they just did it that way in the video
> to
> >> show what they were doing.
> >>
> >> Anyway, here's some not-quite-live coding from Bell Labs EAT in the
> >> 60's.. just cause any discussion of early coding of motion graphics
> should
> >> by law include them! Oh yeah, also because they're very cool to watch.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lmi6cmrq0w
> >> Around 8:00 for the coding action
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crbfSY6vf7s
> >> Around 3:45 for the motion graphics (I think the animator is Stan
> >> Vanderbeek), but really, the whole film is worth watching.. lots of
> early
> >> computer music, speech synth including a computer singing Daisy Bell _at_
> >> 10:00 (may or may not be the one HAL was based on..)
> >>
> >> The language used for the first one is Ken Knowlton's BEFLIX, and I
> >> believe for the segment at 3:45 in the second film too.
> >>
> >> Then of course there's Ivan Sutherland's sketchpad, not quite
> livecoding,
> >> but here's an interesting bit of
> >> Flowcharting = coding
> >> http://youtu.be/BKM3CmRqK2o?t=7m50s
> >>
> >> #!,
> >> -Amy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Nick Collins <clicksonnil_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> very cool precedent. Good to see some critical rewriting of history
> >>> going on still.
> >>>
> >>> for 1976 (from the paper), super prescient:
> >>> "performance graphics, especially the jamming variety, requires
> constant
> >>> real-time debugging with two hundred people looking over your
> shoulder,"
> >>>
> >>> the video doesn't show projected code as centre stage, just their
> chosen
> >>> control method on the side for interactive programming, but still very
> >>> impressive.
> >>>
> >>> best
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 23:28, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I remember RT/1! Larry Cuba got me started with it around 1994,
> though
> >>> it
> >>> > was a senior citizen language by then - the GRASS languages had been
> >>> around
> >>> > for quite awhile, and RT/1 was the last GRASS. I think I made too
> many
> >>> > fatal errors to consider it live coding though. :-) But it was
> >>> exciting to
> >>> > program animation on a PC!
> >>> >
> >>> > Nostalgia!
> >>> >
> >>> > -Amy
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, alex <alex_at_slab.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Wow, this is new to me! This is as impressive as it is laid back.
> Love
> >>> >> the integration with the 'tablet'.. Really nice stuff. Nice to see
> >>> >> this early live coding was for graphics and not music, and that
> people
> >>> >> were pondering on performances without audiences back then.
> >>> >>
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