Last one on BEFLIX, I promise (probably.)
Just stumbled onto this. Again, not livecoding, but interesting to see they
went to the trouble of making a film to document their language for making
films..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5mFhDIJfNA
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
> If embedded Sketchpad video didn't cue properly in previous post:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKM3CmRqK2o go to 7:50 for the
> flowcharting bit.
>
> -Amy
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, AFAIK nobody projected the RT/1 code; it was on a separate monitor
>> that generally wasn't hooked up for video output. So they would have had to
>> put a camera on the screen and mix it through the switcher, as they did in
>> the documentation video. I think they just did it that way in the video to
>> show what they were doing.
>>
>> Anyway, here's some not-quite-live coding from Bell Labs EAT in the
>> 60's.. just cause any discussion of early coding of motion graphics should
>> by law include them! Oh yeah, also because they're very cool to watch.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lmi6cmrq0w
>> Around 8:00 for the coding action
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crbfSY6vf7s
>> Around 3:45 for the motion graphics (I think the animator is Stan
>> Vanderbeek), but really, the whole film is worth watching.. lots of early
>> computer music, speech synth including a computer singing Daisy Bell _at_
>> 10:00 (may or may not be the one HAL was based on..)
>>
>> The language used for the first one is Ken Knowlton's BEFLIX, and I
>> believe for the segment at 3:45 in the second film too.
>>
>> Then of course there's Ivan Sutherland's sketchpad, not quite livecoding,
>> but here's an interesting bit of
>> Flowcharting = coding
>> http://youtu.be/BKM3CmRqK2o?t=7m50s
>>
>> #!,
>> -Amy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Nick Collins <clicksonnil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> very cool precedent. Good to see some critical rewriting of history
>>> going on still.
>>>
>>> for 1976 (from the paper), super prescient:
>>> "performance graphics, especially the jamming variety, requires constant
>>> real-time debugging with two hundred people looking over your shoulder,"
>>>
>>> the video doesn't show projected code as centre stage, just their chosen
>>> control method on the side for interactive programming, but still very
>>> impressive.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 23:28, Amy Alexander <amy_at_plagiarist.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I remember RT/1! Larry Cuba got me started with it around 1994, though
>>> it
>>> > was a senior citizen language by then - the GRASS languages had been
>>> around
>>> > for quite awhile, and RT/1 was the last GRASS. I think I made too many
>>> > fatal errors to consider it live coding though. :-) But it was
>>> exciting to
>>> > program animation on a PC!
>>> >
>>> > Nostalgia!
>>> >
>>> > -Amy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, alex <alex_at_slab.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Wow, this is new to me! This is as impressive as it is laid back. Love
>>> >> the integration with the 'tablet'.. Really nice stuff. Nice to see
>>> >> this early live coding was for graphics and not music, and that people
>>> >> were pondering on performances without audiences back then.
>>> >>
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