On 13 January 2013 16:02, Ross Bencina <rossb-lists_at_audiomulch.com> wrote:
> You've really lost me here. I *don't* think of traditional scores as music.
I don't either, and I'm not at all interested in traditional musical
scores, but I can believe that others experience them as music, just
as people experience books as stories. Before scores, people 'sung'
the notation to each other (and still do with Canntaireachd and Bol
syllables), and this very much gets wrapped up with the music itself.
If the gap between incomplete notation and performance is significant,
then do you think of mp3 files as music? If so, why not code, which
also expresses the complete sonic output to the speakers?
> Scores are a notation to direct the performance of an act that (at its best)
> renders music.
Then it seems strange that the notation can exist before the music is
performed, but is not deemed to be part of it. In the case of live
coding, the 'score' is constructed while the music is performed.
> The fact that traditional scores have come to be seen as music is one of the
> great tragedies of the western tradition. Scores were created as an aid to
> memory. Via a historical process some came to associate music with the
> score.. but there is no more music in the score than there is poetry in a
> book.
Then it seems I don't understand poetry or musical scores, which I can
quite believe having made neither..
> Of course this poses a massive problem for generative theories. Since if the
> score is not the music, the best that can be hoped for is a generative
> theory of scores, not of music.
I think the idea is to first model scores, and then performance of it
separately.
It is interesting though to be a computer musician, embracing the use
of computer language in music making, while rejecting wholly symbolic
representations of music. I'm think I'm with you there!
> That's interesting. Entraining with programmers via music. I wonder what
> other examples of inter-activity entrainment exist?
Hmm..
> It's pretty hard to write code while dancing too... maybe not impossible
> though.
Yes.. Recently I've seen a couple of videos of myself live coding
with people dancing, or artist carrying out live art actions, and I
look completely still and inert. At least the projected screen shows
*some* movement.
alex
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