Re: [livecode] new TOPLAP home page

From: Alexandre Garacotche <alex_at_idoia.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:54:06 +0100

Hi there,
I have not sent any message for a long time, and i'd like to jump into the discussion even though I did not read it from the top ;+) (yeah well, oh! aren't we artists ?!)

The thing is that I am doing some writings these days on the potential of coding (in general) as a way to better understand the implications of technology and its development in our social and human life. As an example, does not programming in HTML give a better understanding of the implications of being in a free (as a bird) space, the Web, which future (and thus ours) might depend of our use of it, and particulary of its code ?
Now, going a bit more in depth, can we consider on a larger scale, the act of programming, given that it is accessible to everyone, as a way to get the development of technology back into an humanitarian purpose ? Might it make things worse, can it no make them better ?

Can we think of any other potential, may it be theorical, of live coding appart from the factual one that is to please the people when showing our code ? Don't get me wrong, I am not critisizing any of your word alex (hit me!), but I like to think live coding as something that as a greater reach than that of pleasure for the artist or for the listener.

What is your opinion on that ?

I hope I made myself clear (my english is a bit rusted).
Alex

Le 24 févr. 2011 à 23:33, alex <alex_at_lurk.org> a écrit :

> Yes I agree with you totally, it gets across the definition of live
> coding in precise terms but says nothing about what it really is.
> I've used this introductory paragraph before, which I think goes a bit
> towards what you are saying:
>
> Live coding is a new direction in electronic music and video, and is
> getting somewhere
> interesting. Live coders expose and rewire the innards of software
> while it generates
> improvised music and/or visuals. All code manipulation is projected
> for your pleasure.
>
> I don't have the energy to work on this either, but maybe that is a
> better starting point?
>
> On 24 February 2011 22:14, Kassen <signal.automatique_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Great! Unlike the old one this has structure so that's a step up already.
>> For further improvement I'd like to suggest starting with some debate on the
>> opening paragraph, which I'd argue is one of the most important parts of the
>> site, for a practice as niche as ours currently is;
>> TOPLAP exists to promote what has come to be known as 'Live Coding', the
>> writing and modifying of rules while they are followed. This includes
>> improvising music and/or video, either to perform before an audience, or to
>> conduct exploratory research.
>> All of that is true, of course, It's quite exhaustive too... but I wouldn't
>> say this paragraph is a friendly and inviting one. To me this paragraph
>> doesn't convey the "a bit of danger is fun" feeling that makes performing
>> and watching performances exciting. What if we'd cut back slightly on being
>> complete and would start with something a bit more fun in a sort of "bold
>> yet friendly" way?
>> I feel a bit bad about suggesting this yet not offering a start right now
>> but my brain doesn't seem in top-form tonight. Maybe somebody else feels
>> like that, or maybe I'm just plain wrong.
>> Yours,
>> Kas.
>
>
>
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