... as a newcomer to this scene, i had first discovered the group slub
(found in a real book (hardcopy), "the cambridge companion" as far as i
remember)...last year. Which then led me to research about livecoding on
internet. I have to admit that the wiki page was intrumental in my
discovering Toplap, (...its logo) and thru its hypertexts, slub (i f. I
would have found it from other sources anyway, as long as it came up in
search engines under keywords such as "computer music, experimental
music..." etc. )
But personally, i use the wiki as a reference for more conventional stuff
than livecoding.
for me, the more underground it stays, the better (...more valued it'd
be)... big media is bound to take it up more and more anyway, as the scene
becomes bigger. As far as the brand Toplap is concerned, the reputation
would depend on the quality of work, production, innovation : (wiki or no
wiki) :P
so carry the fire, says i !
On 4 March 2010 19:38, Kassen <signal.automatique_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I added a note in the discussion section for the livecoding section on the
> computer music page.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what context the quote from Nick's paper comes from
> but I'm a livecoder as well as a DJ and somewhat involved with the
> alternative turntablism scene and I don't think this should be in there. If
> we want to make that claim we will have to define DJing in away that does
> include laptop usage (potentially without external controllers) yet excludes
> livecoding.
>
> You won't succeed in creating that definition, particularly as it would be
> possible to perform in a way that will be fully TOPLAP compliant yet also be
> called DJ-ing (likely even turntablism). We could for example use a adapted
> turntable with a mouse-sensor instead of a needle and read data from that
> into our favourite livecoding system, using it to control a clock to sync
> to, for example.
>
> Aside from this issue of definitions I wouldn't use the note on "charisma"
> because much of the "laptop DJ" scene has some sort of inferiority complex
> towards vinyl purists and flame-wars ensue. On top of that there are fields
> like "controllerism" which have made great strides in bringing this
> "charisma" to laptop-djing and so on.
>
> I don't think this is a claim we want to make as it can't really stand up
> to closer inspection.
>
> Yours,
> Kas.
>
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