2009/11/26 Kassen <signal.automatique_at_gmail.com>:
> I like techno. I think that's a pritty solid reason, really.
Yes! And if a musical genre all sounds the same, it's probably
because you don't know it well enough to be able to identify the
points of variation.
> Another thing is that some instruments are better at some styles, even
> though you could play riffs on a recorder I don't think that many do as the
> instrument doesn't lend itself to that very well and seems much more at home
> with melodies. Livecoding -to me- seems well suited to techno. I don't see
> the slightest issue with that.
Yes but also well suited to some other forms as you say here
> I think that livecoding could also be very well suited to fugas and canons
> but I don't know enough about scales to pull that off. That's a shame but
> then very few instrumentalists know enough about scales to improvise fugas
> and canons so I don't feel too bad about this.
> That too is a good question. How much music moves people to kiss one's
> neighbour? In my own experience, BTW, whenever I saw people that were moved
> to kiss their neighbour at concerts techno was involved so we might be right
> on course there.
Fantastic point! I think I will reuse this point many times in the
future. Only yesterday I was in a seminar where "all that dance
stuff" was disparaged as "manufactured in the studio". Such a tired
argument. You dance to music in a club, then go home to your bedroom
studio to write more music inspired by that, all part of one activity,
and yes kissing is often worked in to the process.
> Is this really true? I don't experience much aggression or war in coding. We
> could also trace code to math which we could in turn trace to attempts by
> the Greek to come to a understanding of the world through abstracting it. I
> would describe that process as a attempt at satisfying curiosity by seeing
> where the analogy collapses -if it does. To me that sounds much closer to
> what we do.
There is aggression in programming culture I think, perhaps set during
the first 20 years of heavy military investment. I'm not saying you
code aggressively but the way programming is taught and the way
programmers behave to one another is affected I think. Feuerstein's
Oracle pl/sql programming book is a counter example, from amazon
reviews:
"Feuerstein can't seem to resist lacing this programmer book with
their views on religion government, and politics and I'm beyond
offended by Feuerstein's published trash about being ashamed to be an
American and going off about his Jewish heritage. Who Cares? Not me,
and I paid good money for this drivel. The content of the book by
itself is only so so but when you add the offensive examples by a
truely disgraceful man and Feuerstein injection of politics into an
Oracle book I felt sick."
> Indeed. Hopefully it can also represent this curiosity I mentioned. I also
> hope that -at least sometimes- it can comment on how society already does
> identify with a lot of codes and rules that do get constantly re-written. In
> a way, what distinguishes a "society" from "a group of people" may well be
> these rules. This is not a bad thing at all, but I do feel that current
> society might benefit from a greater concious awareness of these rules and
> their malleability.
Nicely said.
alex
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