On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 23:09 +0100, Paul Sanders wrote:
> i think some people in the free and open source world should expose
> themselves to commercial software a bit more. it's playing to the
> gallery to suggest that commercial programmers are perverted
> flatterers, and that the software tricks its users into being less
> creative.
I agree my point wasn't well argued, but I still don't feel like I was
playing to the free software world, just small groups already around
this software. To me the free software world seems uncomfortable with
the idea of writing software to make art.
> and really - open source people don't flatter each other?
> what nonsense.
Well John McCartney certainly doesn't. In any case as a 'user' I think
it's difficult to feel flattered by the creators of Supercollider, PD or
processing.
> i'm using bidule - which has a similar paradigm to pure data. it's
> commercial, which wasn't a factor in my choice (except that spending
> money is painful, so i would rather not). i don't recognise terms
> like 'high level' and 'low level' applied to music creation tools -
> tools work with us to give expression to our musical impulses. there
> is only one level, and that's the level that the artist is working at.
There are differences in how that expression gets externalised though,
as a sequence of sounds or as instructions to make a sequence of sounds.
True, that difference isn't in height, but abstraction. But if you have
that abstraction you can think outside of linear time more easily, in a
place where one change can alter everything.
Bidule seems like an open environment from a closed source which spoils
my point somewhat. Im looks like you can choose to build from sinewaves
if you want to. But still I bet there are super easy automatic music
generating features in there to draw in new users.
I'd hate the future of computer music to look like this:
http://www.linuxmusician.com/ . But I think that's very unlikely, I
think computer music communities grow and progress around free software
in ways that aren't available around closed software.
alex
Received on Fri Oct 07 2005 - 00:05:32 BST