Re: [livecode] questions...

From: Dave Griffiths <dave_at_pawfal.org>
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 04:07:23 +0100

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 19:20, Julian Rohrhuber wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >A coupla questions...
>
> you are touching sensitive points.. :)
>
> >Where do you stand on the use of genetic programming for performance? Is this
> >under the same category as live coding - the difference being that you grow
> >the code rather than write it?
>
> I would say that this is just simply a special type of algorithm. So
> it is one extreme of live coding - doing nothing and just letting the
> algorithm develop.

Ah, I think this is the distinction, it can still be interactive - you
can choose code that produces good results manually, while you perform,
"navigate the geneome space" if you want to be academic about it...

> As long as it is all redeable...

Genetic programs should be shown more, they tend to get hidden away by
the software.

This makes quite a good sound:

(cos(+(cos(+(cos(+(*(- 0.929524(*(- 0.746627 0.741314)
0.972336))(+(*(cos(*(+ 0.246092 0.244990) 0.263769))(+ 0.938006
0.140775)) 0.685194))(+(cos(* 0.648392(+ 0.582452 0.313122)))(cos(*(+
0.410632 0.126564) 0.194440)))))(cos(-(-(cos time)(-(+(+ 0.773449
0.903293) 0.364460)(-(* 0.544917 0.167748) 0.263252)))(cos(* 0.046184
time))))))(*(*(cos(cos(-(+(*(- 0.002302(* 0.361310 0.805768))
0.276971)(- 0.945598 0.616702))(-(* 0.730980 0.238658)(+ 0.423594(+
0.544588 0.245835))))))(+(+ 0.783156(- 0.526238 0.581044))(cos(cos(*(cos
0.665828) 0.177759)))))(-(-(- 0.088104(cos 0.752380))(+(*(+ 0.564310
0.202989) 0.718946)(cos 0.545804)))(*(cos(*(* 0.129965(* 0.877471
0.799488)) time))(+(-(*(- 0.168888 0.531057) 0.691737)(* 0.790665
0.200985)) 0.965454))))))

> >Also, what is the definition of code? Is it text only, what about graph based
> >languages? (max/msp, pd, modular synths - or even UML?) They can often be
> >appreciated more by a non programmer audience, and look pretty to boot.
>
> this is a difficult question. There can be no simple answer to it and
> I think it shows that language is a riddle.

Good answer :)
I agree.

cheers,

dave

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