Reading these comments reminded me of one disadvantage of Gitter: It's less
organized than a forum or a mailing list. Each time someone invents a new
topic of discussion on Lurk or the list, there's a new space dedicated to
that topic. The Gitter idiom, by contrast, is to have a small, fixed number
of "rooms" available. If you tried to make a new room every time there's a
new topic, it probably won't be seen, and the number of rooms would get
unwieldy.
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Aymeric Mansoux <aymeric_at_bleu255.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Completely biased 2 cents:
>
> I've been co-running LURK with Alex, and in the past years we've had
> several off-list exchanges about the platform itself.
>
> Generally speaking, like some have already pointed out, it's good to
> acknowledge that email/forum are not in competition with chat services.
> They really serve different purposes and offer different modes of
> synchronicity, and as a result will be both accommodating and favouring
> different types of discussions. One could also add Twitter/Mastodon in
> the mix, or simply extend the argument to virtually any platform. In
> practice, it's really not uncommon to see communities articulated around
> several communication infrastructures, mailing lists, web forums, IRC,
> etc. I think it's healthy and handy.
>
> One point however that I find very important, is that this discussion
> should not just limit itself to a raw comparaison of features between
> platform X and Y. I think that most people on LURK, and not just the
> livecode group, have a certain sensibility towards the ownership and
> control over their tools and their practice. A discussion platform is no
> different because it will have a big role in shaping the discourse and
> culture of an online community.
>
> I'm personally attached to LURK, as in the idea of running a relatively
> autonomous platform for things I care about, not so much because of the
> software it uses, but because it is consistent with ideas of empowerment
> and cultural diversity, and yet is too often an overlooked component in
> the structuring of communities of practice.
>
> Practically, it's true that's it's a pain to maintain, but I think that
> it's not just an email server maintenance issue. Personally I find the
> real burden being the maintenance of GroupServer, and would love to find
> an alternative, and *also* we could really do with an extra root or two
> on the server side.
>
> Regarding the Slack/Gitter issue, I just want to point out that there is
> a fully working XMPP server running on LURK for quite a while now, and
> has been the home of a couple dozens users and a bunch of chat rooms.
> Some LURK users use both the groups and XMPP chats, and generally
> speaking it works super well. It does require some effort to get it
> running as it is definitively not as sleek and user friendly as modern
> chat systems, but it works really well. Just like I said above, some of
> us think that questions of platform politics and dogfooding are very
> important, and was after all the main reason why we started LURK.
>
> a.
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