first - I think the question is less "should I [you] take the
Eurostar to London" than when is someone in Paris going to organize
(or co-organize) and event so we have an excuse to take the Eurostar
to France? ;)
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Sylvain wrote:
> hehe. I have a little anecdote about that. I was once at a Max/MSP
> workshop given by R. Dudas. It was before Max5 and little after I
> learned about toplap, livecoding ... I had also seen at that time a
> nice video of people (I guess austrian guys, Iohannes maybe?) doing
> collaborative Pd patch.
> So R. Dudas ask the audience if we had any request for features
> needed for Max5 or further. I thus raise hand and aks if it was
> possible to have a patch that can be modified by several users.
> Most of people were looking at me as if I have gone crazy, and
> someone even ask me : "What's the use for this ?". I said "well,
> having collaborative composition". R. Dudas seemed a bit surprised
> but interested still. Seems like they didn't take my advice into
> account ;
Hans Steiner (of PD-extended fame and fortune) did this as far back
as 2003/2004, but I can't remember where it is located right now,
perhaps you can find it on the Internets using the Googles. It was a
Pd patch that used OSC (I think, or just udp messages) to create a
sort of "pd wiki" as I think he called it then.
Having used and taught both Pd and Max very extensively over the
years, I agree wholeheartedly with Chris about Pd not really being a
"useful" programming language but being *very* useful for DSP chains,
user interfaces, and prototyping because of the visual, point-and-
click, hands-on nature of it. I've found that any programming system
that doesn't do proper (or predictable, in the the case of Max5 and
its scheduler) recursion and allow you to instantiate many virtual
copies in an easy way is very limited. Yes, Max and Pd have [poly~]
and [nqpoly~], respectively, but I would never attempt to use the in
a livecoding environment because they are very prone to glitching and
crashing.
cheers
evan
[pixelpusher]
http://pixelist.info
Received on Wed Sep 02 2009 - 14:00:15 BST