>Is there a problem when someone presses a small key and a huge sound
comes out?
I can't argue with a Genesis story now, can I? Heh!
>code as a thoroughly human thing (and that (computer)
languages are utterly designed for humans, not computers).
What I'm interested is a computing language other than mathematics
that allows human beings to "compute" any number
of abstract transformations. And this computation would
happen with the help of vocal sounds. That would surely
close the gap betwen music and spoken language.
On 6/7/06, Dave Griffiths <dave_at_pawfal.org> wrote:
>
> >>Is there a problem when someone presses a small key and a huge sound
> >>comes out? I hope some correlation can be seen between for example
> >>frantic typing and frantic results, that would seem enough to me. But
> >>really I think it's up to an audience to get what they want out of a
> >>performance, they're paying for it so they should have some freedom.
> >
> >
> >>The trouble I have with what you're saying is that it's too
> >>rational. And it >is not
> >>the artist's job to be rational.
> >
> > In my view there are a couple of assumptions here that cause the
> > confusion.
> >
> > * the separation between stage and audience
> > * the separation between artist/non-artist or consumer/producer
> > * the separation between rational/irrational
> > * the separation between art and science
> >
> > Since the 20th century (at the latest) artistic activity usually has
> > been to try to work beyond these categories (and find new ones).
>
> To just jump in here a minute - I think I'm increasingly interested in
> craft - and in relation to programming I think it's much more suited
> thinking about it that way. The act of making something by hand - and
> presenting code as not an ethereal abstract formula, but something made by
> human hands. I think Amy started me thinking like this - it exposes code
> as a thoroughly human thing (and that (computer) languages are utterly
> designed for humans, not computers).
>
> I don't think it's surprising that livecoding performances are interesting
> to an audience - people simply enjoy seeing things being made. And this,
> bound up with the resulting music/visuals/smells is more important than
> how closely it equates to a traditional music performance.
>
> cheers,
>
> dave
>
>
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